USB4 is a Glorious Mess
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USB4 is presented here as a wide, sometimes messy convergence point for multiple standards, with Linus focusing on what USB4 actually is, how it relates to Thunderbolt 3 and Thunderbolt 4, and where the ground rules and expectations differ across platforms. The host breaks down USB4 as an open version of Thunderbolt 3, explaining the key advantages like high data rates, daisy-chaining, and PCIe tunneling, while also highlighting the potential for corner cases and short cuts in implementation. The video includes practical demonstrations with a Corsair Voyager a1600 laptop, testing USB4 ports with Thunderbolt 3 and Thunderbolt 4 devices, cables, and docks, to show where compatibility holds and where it does not. The narrative emphasizes that real-world results depend heavily on the quality of implementation, particularly in cables, hubs, and devices, and it compares different ecosystems, notably Apple Mac with Thunderbolt behavior versus Windows and Corsair hardware. Throughout, the host discusses the motivation behind USB4’s design choices in light of vendor certification, consumer usage patterns, and the trade-offs that come with open standards that aim to be universal but end up being selectively feature-rich. The overall takeaway is that USB4 can deliver impressive performance when implemented well, but it is not a single universal experience, and buyers should pay attention to cables, hubs, and claimed features to avoid disappointing results. The video ends with a reflection on the broader implications for devices like phones and the market dynamics around USB4 adoption in consumer hardware.
Topics · technology · hardware · consumer_electronics · computing_platforms
Questions answered
- What is USB4 in simple terms and how does it relate to Thunderbolt 3?
- USB4 is an open version of Thunderbolt 3, built on Intel’s original specifications, aimed at delivering high data rates, display capabilities, and PCIe tunneling while using USB-C connectors.
- Can USB4 cables and ports be relied on to work like Thunderbolt 3/4 in every device?
- Not always. Compatibility depends on the quality of the implementation, the cabling, and whether the device and OS enforce PCIe tunneling and other features.
- Is USB4 universally compatible with Thunderbolt 3 and 4 devices?
- Yes in some cases, but not guaranteed. Real-world results vary by device and manufacturer, and some features may require specific implementations.
- What practical advice does the video give for users buying USB4 gear?
- Check the device’s implementation, prefer certified or high-quality cables, and be prepared for edge cases or limited feature support on certain docks and hubs.