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We Talked To A VP At Microsoft - WAN Show December 23, 2022

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Get a Seasonic Prime TX-1600: geni.us Try Zoho One free for 30 days with no credit card required here: zoho.com Save $25 with our offer code WANSHOW at vessi.com Come to LTX 2023! Website: lmg.gg Podcast Download: spotifyanchor-web.app.link Timestamps: (Courtesy of NoKi1119) 0:00 Chapters 2:11 Intro ft. unlisting YouTube stream 2:52 Topic #1 - LMG reached Microsoft for Modern Standby 3:30 Explaining S0 & S3 states of sleeping 6:06 Discussing the removal of S3 from MS laptops 7:35 Linus on "Why not shut it down lol" & comments from LTT's video 9:12 Feedback on LTT's video of Linus's tour to Micron 9:48 Power loss due to weather, preparing UPS 12:26 Topic #2 - John Carmack leaves Oculus 12:50 Meta's policies, John on efficiency & developers 16:14 Keen Technologies' AGI, what VR should have been 18:27 Linus on mutual agreements with co-workers 20:05 Explaining why WAN was interrupted 20:32 Sponsor - Seasonic 21:21 Sponsor Zoho One 22:04 Sponsor - Vessi Footwear 23:20 Topic #3 - Anker's eufy admits they lied 33:37 Topic #4 - NIVDIA axes GameStream, recommends Steam Link 33:47 Stream Link & moonlight, using Jackery to keep WAN live 36:36 Why petitions won't work 39:32 Discussing Apple's continuity, wireless GTX 460 video 40:50 NVIDIA's history of abandoning products 41:57 Why "smart home" technology is a struggle 42:14 SHIELD's advertising & commitments, Google's Nest Audio 44:52 Power is back 45:50 Topic #5 - Lawyer mother denied entry after AI face recognition 46:27 MSG entertainment's statement, Linus & Luke on AI recognition 49:44 This might go to supreme court, discussing outdated legislations 51:29 Jake joins the WAN show, Luke's roof caved in 52:22 Linus & Luke reacting video, commends Luke's professionalism 53:33 Linus's sense of humor, mentioning LTT's WD video 55:35 Topic #6 - AI uses podcast data to generate topics 57:23 Luke says which was by ChatGPT, Linus shows WAN notes 59:22 ChatGPT uses data from huberman lab to generate a new article 1:02:21 Stance on data set training, discussing WAN show 1:06:10 "Free content," ethicality behind using ChatGPT 1:10:32 Clearing confusion behind Linus's stance on ad-blocking 1:11:40 Linus thanks customer care employees & FloatPlane 1:13:19 LTTStore's mystery hoodie 1:14:17 Merch Messages #1 1:15:12 Linus teases talking about a "canceled big event" 1:16:22 How to donate without getting physical items? 1:16:56 Does LMG have a ticketing system or help desks? 1:18:48 Would carrying the laptop from below cause mouse clicks? 1:19:32 Thoughts on potential AI generated game assets 1:21:01 Dan returns, Linus on WAN's ability to be off-grid 1:22:54 Topic #7 - Apple allows sideloading & third-party app stores 1:23:55 Apple's objections, stock surging 1:26:06 Discussing developer's aspect & certificates 1:27:28 Linus responds to users who want to only use App Store 1:28:46 What would a more open iPhone look like? 1:29:33 Would FP go the sideloading route, or stay on the App Store? 1:31:30 Topic #8 - Epic Games pays millions to COPPA for "dark patterns" 1:31:42 Explaining dark patterns, refunds & accidental purchases 1:33:54 Luke on canceling his late grandfather's Prime subscriptions 1:36:20 "WAN show must go on," Linus & Luke's streak 1:37:23 Topic #9 - LastPass August breach was way worse 1:38:42 Unencrypted information & URLs 1:39:48 Luke suggests leaving LastPass & updating passwords 1:40:38 CelebrityFeetPics site, Linus is on Men Wikifeet 1:42:08 Topic #10 - Sharing Netflix passwords may be illegal 1:43:00 Linus not noticing ads, like-dislike ratio 1:45:36 CPS might seek criminal charges against close people sharing passwords 1:48:31 Merch Messages #2 1:48:40 SpoOoOky WAN show returns, Secret Shopper part 3 1:49:45 Is overclocking fading away? 1:49:54 Linus enjoying making videos, does he need a smaller team? 1:54:54 How is the dual audio LTT project going? 1:56:08 Making a comparable VR benchmark 1:57:03 Would there be more GPUs with different RAMs? 1:59:11 How to have the LTT backpack signed by LMG employees? 1:59:46 Standoff tool for LTT screwdriver? 2:00:12 Any favorite go-to movies for testing home theaters? 2:01:48 What happened to LTT shirt designs? 2:05:41 Update on LTT summer jacket, Linus on "petty" 2:06:57 Right ways to UPS for tech home video idea 2:07:30 Would LTTStore make fidget toys? 2:08:07 Thoughts on companies selling alpha products without finishing it? 2:10:17 YouTube "good time for ads" popup, Linus calculates lifetime spent on ads 2:13:42 Best gift Linus & Luke would that's not work related? 2:16:07 Would LTT publish a 3D screwdriver model? Why no precision bit sets? 2:17:18 How did Luke become the CEO of FloatPlane? 2:21:01 What tabletop games did Luke play? 2:23:55 What's the deal between Linus's beef with dbrand? 2:27:00 Outro

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We Talked To A VP At Microsoft - WAN Show December 23, 2022 covers a broad ranging WAN Show episode where Linus Tech Tips and guests discuss several high profile tech topics centered on Microsoft Windows modern standby, hardware sleep states, and industry shifts. The hosts recount an emergency call with a Microsoft VP to address ongoing concerns about Windows modern standby, particularly S0 sleep behavior on laptops and the implications for battery life and user experience. The conversation delves into the rationale behind removing S3 sleep, explaining that device firmware controls sleep behavior and that Microsoft seeks to standardize sleep behavior to improve reliability across diverse hardware. They explain how disabling the connected sleep state can reduce issues, and compare Windows sleep behavior with Mac sleep experiences to illustrate platform differences. The segment emphasizes that this is a work in progress with Microsoft taking community feedback seriously, while acknowledging the complexity of firmware updates and device variety. The hosts acknowledge the tension between maintaining user expectations of sleep versus pushing a more controlled, connected sleep model managed by the platform. They also highlight the broader context of hardware reliability, power management, and user experience in laptops used for everyday productivity. Finally, the discussion frames this as a live example of how channel communities can influence vendor responsiveness by highlighting real world pain points and driving industry dialogue.

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What prompted the Microsoft discussion on Windows modern standby and S0 vs S3 sleep states?
The discussion was prompted by ongoing user-reported issues with Windows modern standby causing battery drain and wake/sleep inconsistencies, which Linus and team escalated by contacting a Microsoft VP to seek clarity and potential fixes.
Why did Microsoft move away from S3 sleep in laptops according to the interview?
Microsoft explained that S0 sleep provides more consistent, connected sleep behavior across diverse hardware when firmware updates and maintenance vary by device, leading to better reliability than S3 sleep across many laptops.
What is the rough stance of the WAN Show about firmware control versus user expectations?
The WAN Show advocates for a balance, acknowledging user expectations for sleep that preserves battery life and quick wake, while recognizing the need for platform-level control to ensure consistent sleep behavior across devices.