The WAN Show - Windows ni... er TEN! Samsung to Make CPUs for AMD? - October 3, 2014
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linustechtips.com Sponsors! Squarespace Link: squarespace.com - Offer code Linus to save 10% Join Dollar Shave Club: dollarshaveclub.com ** Yes, we're aware of the glitches in the archive. There were some unexpected interruptions to the show and there's not much we can do about it. ** Table of Contents: 0:00:00 Introduction and reason why they are late 0:00:50 Story from last week 0:02:00 Topic Introduction and WAN Show intro 0:04:00 Dollar Shave Club and Squarespace sponsor spot 0:05:06 Scott's here 0:07:12 Guest Host - AMD partnering with Samsung for 14nm chips 0:19:02 Guest Host - Price drops of hardware 0:21:00 980 & 970 architecture differences (for 4k) 0:24:00 Linus explains how he tested his Acer 4K G-Sync Monitor 0:26:05 AMD's project FreeSync 0:36:08 17,000 Mac botnet 0:38:53 Is Apple imploding? 0:39:20 iPhone 6+ #Bendgate 0:40:56 Stream goes down, Guest segment over 0:41:00 Linus and Luke are in the middle of the Pebble watch discussion 0:43:21 OP Credit for various topics 0:43:33 Stream goes down again 0:43:40 Swiftech stealthy release of 240X 0:46:00 Linus and Luke are going to Germany! 0:47:00 Windows 10, not 9 Talking about Windows 95, 98 2000/ ME 0:53:10 Videos lined up after the trip. 0:54:45 The Tesla model D. Cars with "AutoPilot" next year. 0:58:30 Weird product names segue "aroused" by Luke. 0:59:14 Innuendo and shenanigan. 1:02:44 PCIe 4.0?! 1:03:44 Nexus 6 specs leaked 1:06:20 Phone gaming vs Nintendo 3DS/2DS and NVIDIA SHIELD discussion 1:09:10 Sponser Spot: SquareSpace. 1:11:33 Sponsor Spot: Dollar Shave Club. 1:12:53 Android L allows swappable parts for project Ara. 1:15:45 Phone camera talk. 1:18:27 Facebook change Real-Name policy. 1:20:48 Facebook flies drones. 1:22:48 Kano Ships kit to backers. 1:24:58 Some EA news. 1:25:35 Shadow of Mordor. 1:28:00 Outro.
The WAN Show episode dated October 3, 2014 opens with Linus sharing a lighthearted default: the show is late again, and he explains a last minute hardware swap to fix streaming issues that caused dropped frames. He describes swapping the motherboard, CPU, RAM, and reconfiguring capture cards to stabilize the stream, noting that the room was rearranged to accommodate extra personnel. This intro sets a practical tone, showing the team overcoming on air technical hurdles while keeping the audience engaged with self-deprecating humor. The hosts move into Windows 10 discussion, previewing the technical aspects and nostalgia around older Windows versions, and tease a guest topic about AMD potentially partnering with Samsung for 14nm ARM-based CPUs in a way that could shift the balance of power in the processor market. Throughout, Linus keeps the energy high, joking about the infamous “d” from the Tesla reveal while guiding viewers toward the main topics of the show, including sponsorship spots. The sponsor segment with Dollar Shave Club and Squarespace follows, with Linus highlighting the benefits of quality razors and easy website creation, adding a light moment about moving sponsor cards around on camera. The main guest segment introduces Scott, a veteran tech reviewer, who helps unpack the AMD Samsung rumor and broader implications for the processor landscape, adding credibility and a historical perspective to the discussion. The team explores the AMD-Samsung collaboration in depth, explaining the potential for Samsung to fabricate 14nm chips for AMD and how that could influence performance, power efficiency, and manufacturing economics. Scott provides context on GlobalFoundries, Apple, and Intel, clarifying how a joint AMD-Samsung node could affect the competitive dynamic with Intel, and why AMD might leverage such a partnership to catch up in the CPU race. The conversation shifts to the architectural implications of the rumored partnership, including how process nodes impact die yield, cost per chip, and margins, with Linus and Scott debating whether node parity with Intel would meaningfully boost AMD’s performance. They review the likelihood of AMD’s FX successor on a 14nm process, the strategic role of APUs and SoCs, and whether Samsung’s manufacturing capabilities could align with AMD’s Zen or K12 cores to create a competitive product by 2015 or 2016. The discussion broadens to consider the economics of fabrication, wafer yield, and the potential for AMD to offer strong performance at attractive prices even if margins are thinner than Intel’s. A detailed technical explanation covers the tradeoffs of different foundries, the role of FinFET/Trigate transistor technology, and how Samsung’s 14nm node could influence switching speeds and power efficiency. The hosts pivot to the ongoing GPU market, addressing Nvidia’s Maxwell and the pricing dynamics around GTX 970 and GTX 980, including discussions about VRAM, SM counts, and 4K gaming viability, with hands-on insights about G-Sync and monitor technology. The team shares testing experiences with Acer’s 4K G-Sync monitor, explaining how frame rate, input latency, and adaptive refresh rates interact to deliver smooth gaming, and they discuss the cost implications for consumers considering high-end displays. The chat then dives into FreeSync as AMD’s answer to G-Sync, clarifying the Adaptive Sync extension to DisplayPort and the current status of standardization, vendor support, and real-world availability, acknowledging Nvidia’s stance on not adopting FreeSync in the near term. The conversation captures the broader ecosystem dynamics between Nvidia and AMD, including scaler technologies, FPGA development cycles, and the potential for cross-vendor compatibility that would ultimately benefit consumers. The show returns to consumer tech culture, touching on the iPhone Bendgate narrative, Apple’s public relations posture, and the broader tech media landscape, while also circling back to Pebble smartwatches, their price changes, and how fashion versus functionality influences purchasing decisions. The episode closes with a quick preview of future content, including a trip to Germany and additional hardware topics, signaling ongoing collaborative coverage and a commitment to exploring both hardware and software trends in depth. Overall, the show blends transitory news, expert guest insight, practical testing notes, and a sense of community around enthusiasts who care deeply about hardware, performance, and value. The narrative weaves together AMD-Samsung rumors, GPU market dynamics, display technology, and consumer electronics culture, leaving viewers with a nuanced view of how manufacturer partnerships and architectural choices could shape the next wave of PC hardware. The pacing keeps moving through multiple streams of information, with occasional hiccups during live production, yet the team sustains momentum and offers concrete takeaways for builders and tech enthusiasts alike.
Topics · technology · science_and_tech · consumer_electronics · hardware_computing · gpu_tech · cpu_architecture
Questions answered
- What is the potential AMD Samsung collaboration about and why is it significant?
- It could involve Samsung manufacturing 14nm chips for AMD, aligning Samsung's process capabilities with AMD's Zen/ K12 architectures to improve performance and efficiency, potentially allowing AMD to compete more effectively with Intel in the 2015-2016 timeframe.
- How does process node technology impact CPU cost and performance?
- Smaller nodes generally increase die yield efficiency, allowing more chips per wafer, which can reduce cost per chip. They also enable higher clock speeds and better power efficiency, but require architectural efficiency to realize performance gains.
- What is FreeSync and how does it differ from G-Sync?
- FreeSync is AMD's adaptive refresh technology built on DisplayPort Adaptive Sync to enable variable refresh rates. G-Sync is Nvidia's competing solution with its own hardware module. FreeSync aims for broader compatibility and lower cost, while G-Sync has a closed ecosystem and a dedicated module.
- Are 4K gaming experiences viable with GTX 970 or GTX 980?
- 4K gaming with single high-end cards is challenging; the 980 and 970 have different architectural factors that can affect pixel throughput and performance. High-refresh displays and sync tech like G-Sync can improve perceived smoothness, but consumers may still need multiple GPUs or aggressive settings for full 4K quality.